wolfor wrote:

Do you remember when the 'titles' for the scores were altered? The average score went up by a whole point, just because they called three stars 'poor' and instead of 'acceptable' or what it was ever called. So, I'm guessing if these ratings get renamed again, so six stars are no longer called 'good' but 'average' (or whatever ), you would see a big leap in the rating average

No. I wasn't here for that. Perhaps that's the real reason this is such an issue? Wow, it's like someone just lifted a curtain and said "There. That's it."

I had no idea there used to be a different system.

It was a hard sound to animate to, so naturally the animations were not as good as before. But I was a little more generous than you in general, I gave out a lot of 4 stars.

wellings wrote:

Littlepengiun, robcat - Not sure if you're suggesting that I am moaning or just some people in general lol. Anyway, I was simply commenting on the surprising volume of poor entries this month. There are always lots, but this month it's seemed like 80% were miles away from being ready for competition. With some entries I simply do not understand the motivation for putting in the time and effort; they were quite poor. I understand wanting to improve but it's seems like some people aren't willing to start with the basics. They refuse to do a bouncing ball for whatever reason. Maybe they find it boring. They don't seem to understand that believable acting is incredibly hard to animate and you have to MASTER the basics first. I just feel like there are too many people that won't take away from the competition what they should: the desire to improve by starting at the beginning!

Stina - I'm not trying to bash entries either. However, I do think that the people who put forth entries that are severely lacking in fundamentals need to know it. Getting ranked toward the bottom of the list really helped me. I thought my work was okay, I quickly realized it was carp. My work is still just mediocre and I need people to tell me what sucks. If everyone said "that looks good" I'd get nowhere. Anyway...enough rambling lol.

Yep, i was right. You do take yourself a little too seriously, but i can't blame you. Your'e just like me, except with a better demo reel.

user - maybe I do come across as taking myself too seriously, I'm not sure. I guarantee you I DON't though! lol
But do you not watch some entries and pretty much react like ".....what? Why?". There's a difference between a beginner who is working hard and you can see that they are finding their feet, and someone who enters something completely 100% lacking in any animation principles whatsoever. Trust me, I'm not trying to climb on any high horse because I am nowhere near good enough to do that, I just happened to be struck by the sheer volume of "poor" entries this month and I wanted to see if others felt the same.

JKR - I agree with you. I never really pay attention to my score, just my placing in the competition. I celebrated my first top 50 like I won gold lol. I don't care if I scored 5.5 or 8.5, I just want to improve my placing each time I enter.
At the end of the day I don't think it matters what star rating people choose to give. If somebody is an easy marker, they will give everyone high scores so its balances out. Likewise if they are a tough scorer.
I also hope to see some kick ass entries this month! It's a very nice piece of audio with lots of subtleties

Last edited by wellings (08-07-2012 9:51 pm)

JKR wrote:

thelittlepenguin84 wrote:

JKR, if I read wolfor's words correctly where you last piece was given a five, it would actually be given a four!

I don't really care what mine score in regards to number, to be honest. The only thing I've ever paid attention to is compared to the others in that month (aka 121st place). I considered my last one to be adequate (or decent? I don't remember), I don't really care if other people consider it to be poor. I'm just saying some youngsters might give more weight to the actual number of the score, and see people ranked them "lacks fundamentals" when, come on, most don't actually lack fundamentals that get that score. They may not be amazing at fundamentals, but they're still there.

Anyway, this conversation is pointless because you aren't going to change to the new system and I'm just going to get mad if you keep giving reasons for not changing, so let's stop.

Moving on! I hope August has some totally AMAZING entries. Come on, people! Let's top July for sure!

And I always loved your entries, especially since you stopped using flash. I'm finding your 'experiment' in seeing if your idea was original quite cool, that way I can see if I recognize your  style when voting for august

JKR wrote:

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Let's see how far out of my style I can get. Can I fool the great Wolfor? Time will tell..............

Darn, I wish I hadn't said that, it wasn't intended as a challenge towards you, initially, but there you have it.

Challenge accepted

I found the audio clip impossible to listen to. Ridiculously annoying.

Good point. You do have to judge them all and by the way, man, your comment about my AVATAR, was the best. I loved it. It just begs for being trouble, and you know he's not just wearing a beard, he's a got BLACK TURBAN too!!! A NO NO especially in Texas. Just keeping things interesting. I like reading your commentaries. I like your honesty.

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The skip button only takes you so far. I think Morpheus means he only provides constructive criticism to the more advanced

You can skip an entry but it will come back and eventually it refuses to leave until you score it.

Haha I guess I wasn't clear.  What I meant was I give one to three stars only for the beginner entries and I take the time to really deconstruct and observe the better ones.  That isn't to say I simply discard of the beginner ones, I watch every single one but 9 times out of ten someone else has already commented "study the basics" or something along those lines so there's no need for me to say more.  If there's an entry that obviously had a lot of work put into it I take the extra time to critique it properly.  Of course if a beginner posted in the forums I would be more happy to give some tips...if its 2d that is because I know next to nothing about 3d hehe.

Morpheus306 wrote:

Haha I guess I wasn't clear.  What I meant was I give one to three stars only for the beginner entries and I take the time to really deconstruct and observe the better ones.

If you just want to comment on the good ones you could save yourself some time by waiting until the contest is done then going to comment on the top-ranked ones.

thelittlepenguin84 wrote:

I disagree with you Robcat. As I have always said, different peple vote in different ways. Morpheus has said that he watches each ebtry and votes accordingly. But he reserves commenting on any that he feels he cannot help too much with.

Exactly haha I don't skip entries unless the video doesn't load or something.