I haven't used 11 for animating.   But I did with Bishop in Class 4 and 5.     I am basically trying to decide if I am going to run into a problem that will require me to transfer my rig back to Bishop 2.0.   I am in Class 5 right now, and my mentor has given me the blessing of using a rig outside of the school.... and 11 seems to be the most appealing and functional.

Last edited by elliebeth (04-19-2012 10:28 pm)

I am SUPER impressed with 11.  I think 11 is more functional than Bishop so far.  Clothes would be nice (but I am working around that).   Does 11 have controls for the lip corners (to sharpen them)?   That's one of the few things I haven't found....

well 11 really is great.. everything is really great exept for eye lids.. it intersect with eyeballs but there eye corretion option which helps it .. but i hope it gets really corrected in there next verson

hehe no problem .. wen i use it next time i will deal with it myself  and yea i understand rigging is a hard mind numbing thing!

ahh yea that should be good idea i was thinking of more stupid one.. where i edited its geo
but anyway.. if anyone wanna learn lipsynck they should really put there hands on 11 coz of the easy of mouth shapes
i allways wanted to know...how you guys did that face deformers (face sculpters) ? im acually praticeing rigging in the holiday now and i built a simple model with lips and i wanted to do somthing like 11 has..
i found that it was really easy for me while lipsyncking

cosmicfool wrote:

wow, never noticed it had more face deforming options. Cool. If only it had a way to tighten up the mouth corners when it was open. That would really help it out.

You think this might be remedied by adding two more of these controls near each mouth corner, one on the upper lip and one on the lower? That might be pretty easy to do...

@fakepivot, to explain this in short, you create a blendshape of the face, add a lot of clusters or joints in that blenshape and connect them with the control objects attached to the rig. Now turn on the blendshape, and you're done! (now that was really short)

@elliebeth, sorry for hijacking your thread, I hope you don't mind

Thank you wolfor , i guess i get the idea now ... i will dig deep into it

Last edited by fakepivot (04-20-2012 4:43 pm)

elliebeth wrote:

Hey wolfor ---- your advanced video answered a lot of my questions!   The only thing I am now curious about is the eyes.   If I use Rotate Z on the head --- the eyes get all crosseyed.   That's the only thing I can't figure out --- otherwise 11 is better than Bishop!!!

Hmm funny I though I got rid of this problem... I'm having a look at it right now, seems like a very strange eye rig setup. I'll update as soon as i found the error. Cheers!

elliebeth wrote:

If it helps, it definitely does not happen in the v1.0 version of the rig.   Just v1.1.   

It does, actually Thanks!

I've found another difference between Bishop and 11, and I'm sorta curious if there is a way to get 11 to be a bit more like Bishop in this respect:

The IK legs in Bishop (and Stewie) let you move around the legs without any weird deformation of the skin.  You can simply click on that one IK controller (the feet), and move it forwards or backwards.

However, I've noticed though with 11, you have to grab the IK foot controller as well as the knee pole vector, particularly if you are take the legs forward in 3D space.  I am assuming that it's because in Bishop & Stewie, the pole vector is probably constrained or parented into the default IK foot controller - and then hidden from sight.   Is there any way to do that with 11?  I know you can hide the pole vector controller in 11, but that doesn't make it actually automatically animate with the IK foot controller.   It only hides it.

In some ways I really appreciate that the pole vector is right there, seperate from the IK controller, because you have so much control.   But it would be nice if there was a way for it to move around 3D space with the IK controller some times.

Last edited by elliebeth (04-23-2012 9:58 pm)

Awesome!   Thanks wolfor!

I am going to be animating my next assignment with 11 for sure.   This should be interesting