#1 04-06-2012 7:52 am

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Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

Hey guys,
so this is a bit of a pedantic question but one that's been bugging me lately.

At school we've been swapping between Flash and Toon Boom, after doing a classical film and after my previous Maya experience. And we've had a multitude of teachers.

So each program, and instructor uses these words interchanegably but each switch out between whats the in and whats the out.
Personally I'm used to saying cushion in and out (of a pose), but I keep hearing some say ease in and out(of a transition). In which case, the terminology means opposite things.

SO in the interest of a common language, what would you say an Ease/Cushion/Slow In represents? A slow into the pose or a slow in to the transition.

It gets really annoying when you're trying to elaborate on feedback or somethign like that, and some people understand the complete opposite of what you meant.

Cheers.
And I know it's ridiculously pedantic, but I stated my reasons for asking :-P


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#2 04-06-2012 1:08 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

Well a 'slow in' is a slow into the pose.

A slow in to the transition would be a slow out.

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#3 04-06-2012 1:28 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

All these terms mean the same thing - you make you pictures closer to each other, so the spacing stars to shrink. IN and OUT thing is not a problem at all smile you make your animation that is just obvious if object starts to gain speed or decrease it..

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#4 04-06-2012 2:14 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

Yeah, like oneZ said, it's really the same thing. I understand what you mean, that they're opposite, but really a good animator should know which is needed where. If I tell you something needs an ease out referring to a particular shot, it should be obvious if I mean you need to ease out of the current pose OR ease into the next. If it isn't obvious, then maybe you need both! smile


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#5 04-06-2012 2:14 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

"Cushion" was the one that baffled me when I first encountered it. 

"Just add a cushion at the top", this guy was telling me. hmm ??

I've never seen it in a book about animation.  Only in conversations and exchanges on the internets.


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#6 04-06-2012 4:06 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

I think 'cushion' is a CG animation term.Like ease in and ease out.

"Slowing in or slowing out is the classical terminology for it, but I prefer today's computer animators' term of easing   
   
  in and easing out
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#7 04-06-2012 5:14 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

d-Anim wrote:

I think 'cushion' is a CG animation term.Like ease in and ease out.

In this instance it was a 2D guy saying it and he went wayyy back.  I got the sense he had been using it his whole life.


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#8 04-06-2012 6:04 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

robcat2075 wrote:

In this instance it was a 2D guy saying it and he went wayyy back.  I got the sense he had been using it his whole life.

ken harris?


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#9 04-06-2012 6:21 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

Animators are weird.


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#10 04-07-2012 3:28 am

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

fakepivot wrote:

robcat2075 wrote:

In this instance it was a 2D guy saying it and he went wayyy back.  I got the sense he had been using it his whole life.

ken harris?

Not THAT far back.

It was Bob Taylor


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#11 04-07-2012 4:01 am

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

It's true that anyone who knows how to animate what they're animating would understand what anyone means with it, but in the case of when they're new to animation or when they're animating something they're unfamiliar with and getting feedback, the confusion can be annoying.
Albeit, atleast in CG, it's fast to shift the easing.
Handdrawn, hopefully everyones animating rough and can change things without too much reworking


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#12 04-11-2012 5:55 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

You're lucky to have tutors that actually use such terminology while giving you feedback smile


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#13 04-11-2012 7:11 pm

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

what school are you gonig to Dgovil?


me fail english, thats umpossible.

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#14 04-12-2012 10:37 am

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Re: Ease in vs Slow in vs Cushion in vs app terminology

Going to Vancouver Film School right now...actually graduating next week.(20th)


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