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#1 04-05-2012 11:25 pm
- WarrenJ
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hey guys well im a very new animator, as this is my passion in life i just want some proper feed back. i entered into the march comp and i came over 300 + which is very sad for me because i thought i could do better than that. yes my time was rushed i did it in a few days because i had a time issue. but besides that i didnt expect to come so far down in the rankings.... all i really want is some good criticism which i didnt get from the comments. all i got was its too "floaty" which i agree with but can u help me too make him less floating. im not saying lecture me but give me links ect to help me with such things... i wanna learn as much as i can, and all im asking is for is that u guys to give me your knowledge of sites that might have helped u through your learning processes's
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#2 04-05-2012 11:37 pm
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#3 04-05-2012 11:42 pm
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somebody once also asked me when I first entered and came near last, 'where did you expect to appear?' I took this as harsh at the time. I thought they were pretty rude. But I had decided to leap straight into acting before trying to tackle the principles. If animation mentor students take over 6 months of animating (together with support from some of the best mentors on the planet), what made me any different?
Hopefully this is your first humbling experience on the road to becoming an animator. You lacked many of the key principles, but with hard work, you will get there. Good luck!
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#4 04-06-2012 12:21 am
- lazzybum
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Try tackling the beginner and earlier exercises first before going into dialog/acting. I know its not the most fun doing ball bounces and walks, but if you can nail those down, then you can start going into the harder stuff like acting. You could also try using a rig without arms or with one leg, etc. The less stuff you have to tackle, like fingers, facials, etc , the more you can concentrate on certain steps and move your way up.
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#5 04-06-2012 2:12 am
- jay-ay
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I agree with lazzybum, bouncing balls are the very basic and probably one of the most crucial exercises every animator has to go through before they should move on to more complex animation. Rhythm&Hues gave a talk at my college last year and I was amazed that the trainee animators (who already have decent animation skills) are required to go through bouncing ball exercises and keep on refining them, for several MONTHS! It isn't as easy as a few clicks of a button to produce different bouncing balls with varying weights that are believable, and this exercise practically develops all of the fundamental understanding of the animation principles.
Only when you have a good understanding of those principles should you move on to tackling character acting and emotion, because you already have the fundamental skills and understanding to not be so tied up with them as you figure out how to emote your character.
That being said, I'm no authority on animation as I'm still very much a beginner myself; what I've written also applies a lot to me, haha!
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#6 04-06-2012 2:17 am
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What's helped me a lot is understanding that animation (getting better at it) is REALLY so much about practice. You can read until you go blind from reading (or studying, or watching) but until you get in there and do it yourself you're not going to be very good at it. It's just how our (and many other) art form works.
The other thing is taking failure as a challenge for doing better. I tried pretty freaking hard last month on my entry and didn't even crack the top 100. That was super frustrating, but I channeled that frustration into "Next month I'LL SHOW THEM!" Now I'm very focused on getting April's entry to be fabulous. Top 100 here I come!
Hopefully some of that helps. Above all I really have to stress that first part. You HAVE to get these bad animations out of the way to learn to do better. You can't learn from just reading, it HAS to be accompanied by doing animation. So read up, but when you're done don't just move on to the next reading. Stop and animate. THEN you'll improve.
Much luck! Don't get discouraged, every animator has to start somewhere! (And truthfully be glad that you got such a crappy score on your first entry. If you look at my first one I got 36th place, so I got an inflated ego and thought I was better than I really was. That set me back like crazy! Now I know better, so I'm working hard to improve instead of resting on my laurels.)
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#7 04-06-2012 3:17 am
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I agree with the posts above, you should start with bouncing balls then various walk cycles. If animation really is your passion, you'll enjoy even the bouncing balls. If "doing the basics first" doesn't sound good, lets call it "doing the foundations first". (I prefer calling them foundations..
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#8 04-06-2012 7:50 am
- WarrenJ
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wow! thanx so much guys
and littlepenguin thanx for the links
ye ill never give up so my experience will just keep growing. lets hope aprils animation is better for me ![]()
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#9 04-06-2012 8:39 am
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WarrenJ wrote:
lets hope aprils animation is better for me
I'm all for people entering the competition. It really is a joy and frustration for all levels. However, if you plan on working towards being an animator, I'm not sure you have just heeded everyone's above advice. Animation is HARD!! You will just receive the same advice next month. Again I thought differently when I first entered. Check out my first attempts and ratings if you don't believe me.
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#10 04-06-2012 10:01 am
- WarrenJ
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1 more question wat program is most commonly used to animate. at the moment im using maya but what do you guys prefer like 3ds max ect .
@littlepenguin yes if i recieve the the same advice next month then i will keep working on it and keep tryin to learn and improve my skills as an animator
i didnt once expect to just become a professional in a few days its going to take many years of practise and every piece of advice i recieve i will take and make it useful for me ![]()
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#11 04-06-2012 10:16 am
- thelittlepenguin84
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@ Warren, I mean you need time to learn the foundations. Plenty of time. Months.
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#12 04-06-2012 1:47 pm
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Warren, I think the most common program is probably Maya, but the program is just a tool...it doesn't really matter...animation is animation.
As others said if you want to become an animator you should really focus on the basics first. And take advantage of the forums here, post your work for feedback & really listen to what people have to say. When we all start animation we are "babies" so to speak, an acting animation is like running...you don't expect a baby to know how to run...you have to learn to sit up first, then crawl, then stand up, then walk, then jog, then finally run. So be careful that you aren't trying to "run" too early because the more time you spend learning & understanding the basics...the better you will be later on
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#13 04-06-2012 1:51 pm
- WarrenJ
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Thanx so much guys for all the help :-)
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