#1 11-14-2017 2:15 pm

ScottBurgoyne
From: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Advice / Guidance

Hi everyone! I am looking for a bit of advice / guidance so any and all comments are greatly appreciated. I graduated last year with a BSc In Digital Media and since then completed AnimSchool's 3D Animation (Track) Program, CGMA Body Mechanics class and a number of Udemy courses, I am currently enrolled on Animsquad's Intermediate Workshop. I feel I am ready and would benefit greatly having the opportunity to witness what happens on a daily basis within an animation company, shadow a professional to see how he/she works and get some hands on experience. I have been actively searching for (unpaid) work experience / internship opportunities within travelling distance of Edinburgh, Scotland for a couple of months or so but unfortunately haven't received an email back from any of the companies, I don't really want to keep messaging them with the same email over and over again but I am not entirely sure what to do. Has anyone got any advice, suggestions for me?


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#2 11-14-2017 6:30 pm

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Re: Advice / Guidance

Make a short film and blow them away


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#3 11-16-2017 1:55 pm

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Here is my rather uninformed opinion regarding your situation. If you've completed Animschool and are currently studying at Animsquad, I feel you should already be hunting for a paid position as a junior animator, minimum. Unfortunately, as far as I am aware, there isn't a huge CG industry in Edinburgh so chances are, to get that first job you may have to relocate. Luckily you have access to the whole of Europe (for the time being at least) , so I would say, start applying for every animator position you can find, be it TV, games, movies, commercials, whatever. It might suck to have to leave home for 6 months or even a couple of years, but at the moment, that is the reality for most animators.

While you're applying, I would recommend animating at least one acting piece for your demo reel. What you have so far shows you can animate, but I know some recruiters can get a bit concerned when they only see body mechanics in a reel, particularly a student one. Rather than seeing all the mechanics that you CAN do, they might start to think you CANT do acting, and acting can be important to a lot of studios.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. Hope things go well for you!

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#4 11-16-2017 4:55 pm

ScottBurgoyne
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Re: Advice / Guidance

Unfortunately, what you are saying is true! Edinburgh does not have a lot of CG opportunities which is a shame. It's a good suggestion and I would be open for relocating, especially to get that initial industry experience so I will start applying for all of the areas you mentioned! I know my stuff is a little light on the acting just now but I am currently working on a few shots at Animsquad so fairly soon I will have more to add to my Vimeo. Thank you for your comment, much appreciated!


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#5 11-17-2017 12:35 am

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Scott your animation is good man .The way to be great is really render quality .There are so many films out there where the animation is decent but not super best .The thing that makes them good is the feelings they create in you.You have the ability to create a great short espically since you are an animator .Create a short and boom make it top notch and blow em away


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#6 11-17-2017 12:37 pm

ScottBurgoyne
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Thank you! I'm still learning, but that means a lot. Not a bad suggestion, I'll have a little think about potential shorts!


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#7 11-18-2017 12:09 am

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If you are looking for short work I always have things for people to try.


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#8 11-18-2017 1:50 pm

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Re: Advice / Guidance

When you say animation studio, are you talking about animated feature films? Have you considered working in other areas such as TV, VFX and Games? How you answer this will give a different answer as to what you should do next regarding your demo reel.

For example if you wanted to go into games then having pure body mechanics on your reel is totally fine, as it's what you would be doing most of the time.

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#9 11-21-2017 11:36 am

ScottBurgoyne
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That's a great question, I would love to work in both Feature Anim (Films) as well as Games.


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#10 11-21-2017 12:24 pm

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I think your current reel with an added acting shot (preferably something that shows you can animate lipsync properly) would be a great start to start submitting for both feature and game opportunities smile

Also, maybe you've already done this but if not, broaden your scope a little bit. There's lots of experience to be had in the TV and commercial industry as well. I got my first job out of animation college in a french studio that specializes in TV animated series for kids. TV productions generally have a much faster turnaround time, so you learn a lot in a short amount of time which can be really helpful down the line. But yeah, definitely turn your search to the rest of europe! Best of luck!

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#11 11-21-2017 2:33 pm

ScottBurgoyne
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Re: Advice / Guidance

Hey Snuffy! I've never actually animated a dialogue shot before but it is something I am very interested in learning how to do, so over time as I progress I'll start adding acting shots to my reel. That's a great point about working in TV. Although I mentioned I am interested in working in both Feature Anim and Games I really want experience within the industry so I will definitely look into anything and everything Animation related! Thanks for your comment and kind words, it means a lot!


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#12 11-27-2017 12:17 am

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Don't waste your time with a short film. If you do that, there are SO many things other than animation you need to take into consideration. Writing, Storyboard, modeling, rigging, design, color, light, render, comp, sound fx. Animation is such a tiny part of movie making.
And honestly, recruiters just wanna see 40-50 seconds of good animation.

Take a look at tv studios around UK. There are some great ones. Jellyfish, Brown Bag, Blue Zoo. It is so much easier to get into those, and there is sooooo much to learn. I personally spend more than four years at a tv studio before taking the jump to feature, and I don't regret it one bit.

Maybe if you are at the disney/pixar level, recruiters are looking for your storytelling ability/understanding as well as animation skills, because at that level, everybody is a good animator anyways. But it doesn't sound like you are quite there yet, so I would focus on that.

Just my opinion of course smile


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#13 11-28-2017 4:36 pm

ScottBurgoyne
From: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Wow, Thanks for the comment Christoffer (love your stuff) - I completely agree that a short film might not be the best route to take and that focusing solely on my animation is a much better use of my time. I have stumbled on the studios you mentioned but I'll definitely have a deeper look into them as well as the rest of the UK. Your opinion definitely matters! Thanks again for your insight dude! smile


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