#1 05-09-2017 12:50 am

kiwimage
From: France
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May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Hello, I'm glad I have some time this month to participate to the competition.

Here is what I've done so far. I'm ready for critics if you have any, and i'm sure you will !
I went for an interview in the street.  I plan to build a street environment, maybe if I have time some people walking, to match the busy mood of the audio file.
The camera 2 is supposed to be held by hand so i have added some noise on it, hope it doesn't disturb you guys ?

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#2 05-12-2017 3:15 am

kiwimage
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Here is an update

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#3 05-16-2017 7:31 pm

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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.


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#4 05-17-2017 12:00 pm

IvanMendozaMedina
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Hi mate.
Some bits of the lip sync are great. Some need work.
"Cuz I'm dying" looks great. So does "Everyone there's dying" and "crushes the life out of you". The rest needs to be polished. Specially the interviewer's bit.
Also the character moves far too much and turns the head in all directions all the time. Good luck.

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#5 05-19-2017 1:40 pm

kiwimage
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Thanks for passing by IvanMendozaMedina !
I have heard what you said and I  simplified some useless head moves. Also reworked the lip sync in some places.
I added a walking girl in the background to match the audio. Hope she is not too distracting.

I wish my animation didn't end up so floaty.

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#6 05-19-2017 4:28 pm

IvanMendozaMedina
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Better. I think the girl works very good. The camera moves too much though. It's fine to have some movement but make it much more subtle.

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#7 05-21-2017 9:52 am

Jonathansong
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Nice work!

Everything looks great! Maybe try to make the character hold on some position? Best of luck to you!


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#8 05-25-2017 2:32 am

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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

There definitely is a problem with floatiness. Usually means you're letting the computer do too much of the in-betweening work. Though it improves with each version you put up. Floatiness happens when the speed of movement is too steady. Arm movement when he says "crush" should be sped up a bit. Upper torso movement too floaty--vary the speed of his upper torso movement a bit more, put in some pauses (moving holds) when his upper torso leans farthest to the left and to the right.

It's shaping up really well. Love the background, the girl walking behind, the idea you came up with.

And oh, contest rules don't allow you to alter the audio in any way. So don't add any noises to it.

I sense yours is going to be one of the better entries this month, top 20 at least. Maybe higher. smile

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#9 05-25-2017 2:40 am

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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Boumboum34 wrote:

There definitely is a problem with floatiness. Usually means you're letting the computer do too much of the in-betweening work. Though it improves with each version you put up. Floatiness happens when the speed of movement is too steady. Arm movement when he says "crush" should be sped up a bit. Upper torso movement too floaty--vary the speed of his upper torso movement a bit more, put in some pauses (moving holds) when his upper torso leans farthest to the left and to the right.

It's shaping up really well. Love the background, the girl walking behind, the idea you came up with.

And oh, contest rules don't allow you to alter the audio in any way. So don't add any noises to it.

I sense yours is going to be one of the better entries this month, top 20 at least. Maybe higher. smile

^ Agree with the moving holds. Some slow in slow out.


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#10 05-26-2017 8:02 am

kiwimage
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Thank you for your inputs guys. I found it very useful.
I will definitely revisit my curves for the COGs, hips and spine joints, in order to improve their ease-in and out.

Boumboum34 wrote:

...Arm movement when he says "crush" should be sped up a bit.

Totally Agreed with that.

Boumboum34 wrote:

And oh, contest rules don't allow you to alter the audio in any way. So don't add any noises to it.

I didn't modify the audio. In a earlier post I was talking about adding parametric noise to the up/down and left-right position of my camera target, to get an random/hand-held camera feeling.

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#11 05-26-2017 4:46 pm

Boumboum34
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

kiwimage wrote:

I didn't modify the audio. In a earlier post I was talking about adding parametric noise to the up/down and left-right position of my camera target, to get an random/hand-held camera feeling.

Oops! I misunderstood you! Thanks for the correction. Though personally I really hate the shakycam/handheld cam look. It's distracting and makes it hard to follow the visual action. There's a reason most interviewers use tripods even in street interviews--or place their cameras on shoulders to minimize movement.

One more suggestion. There's also a little too much floatiness in waving his hand when he says "me neither". The posing of the hand and arm there is good, I think. Work on speed of movement; moving hold, then fast sweep of hand (faster than you have it here), then moving hold of hand/arm. Slightly sharper transitions between "moving hold" and "fast sweep".

Overall this is shaping up to be really good. Top 10% at least IMO. Fix the remaining floatiness and it'll be Top Ten.

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#12 05-28-2017 5:54 pm

kiwimage
From: France
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Here is an update, probably the last before I render.
I tried to improve the timing of the gestures, and marking pauses, as you guys suggested.
My moving holds, are still moving too much maybe. I don't know. smile
I also got rid of the last hand gesture, because I think he was waving and illustrating too much the speech with his hand.

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#13 05-28-2017 7:21 pm

Boumboum34
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Definitely improved. smile Looking good!

Hopefully though your WIP 05 isn't a final render, as there's a shininess in the skin and clothes that bothers me. I'll guess WIP 03 is the final rendered look? With an entry rendered like WIP 03 and animated like WIP 05 you'll have a really good entry, tough to beat. smile

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#14 05-28-2017 8:46 pm

kiwimage
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Thank you BoumBoum, it's very encouraging !

As you suspect, it will look more or less like the WIP03.
This is a fast openGL preview (working with Blender), so there are no materials or lighting here. I only composited it over the background, applied a motion blur and tonemapped it in After effects.
I have 3 days left to take care of the render, plenty of time, for a change !


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#15 05-31-2017 11:45 am

kiwimage
From: France
Registered: 05-04-2013
Posts: 56

Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

One last update, since I had a few hours to work on it.
I have worked a little more on the eyes, blinks, brows.
Kinda fixed the floaty microphone.
Tried to achieve a more snappy rythm.

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#16 05-31-2017 11:57 am

Boumboum34
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Re: May 2017 - Interview of a working man.

Looking good! It's not perfect, but should be one of the really good entries this month. Good luck to you!

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