Lex FundaMentals wrote:

yea but how do you know that this is not the way a bouncing house behaves?

I think the word here is "plausible".

If one is wanting to make something jump that normally can not jump it needs to use much the same sort of motion that something that *can* jump uses so the viewer can reconcile this new thing with their accumulated experience. 

That would make a house jumping "plausible" and even interesting even though we know it can't really be done.

That house is jumping in a manner that nothing that does jump would ever do.  So that's why it looks off to me.

Hi, i didn´t read all the posts, but i watched your entry and i think is a great improve over previous works of you. I´d say the last entry is 4 times better than your entry with the cat and the dog that i remember well.
That is positive side of the thing...you are actually improving your animation skills.

The amazing (and 100% distracting) amount of vibration in your animations is probably the cause of lots of low stars rankings....wich makes sense, since if, for example, i turn the tv and see that amount of shivering in an animation, i probably change the channel as soon as posible to prevent a headache
You should work about that issue instead of complaint about the low score.

But why everyone can see this but you treat it like a minnor issue?

I think this read is importat for all of us too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2 … ger_effect

Lex FundaMentals wrote:

So you guys want to say that I should animate that house more realistically?
Well, try to find a bouncing house, film it and post the vid here. I'll be happy to use that as a reference.

That guy who animated that walking Pixar lamp, I don't think he told the owner, boss, director, or whoever, at Pixar, "Hey, go find me a walking lamp and I'll go animate this lamp for ya"...

Same goes for all the talking animals on all the Ice Age moveis

Oh yeah and the talking cars on the movie Cars. I don't think Pixar had reference of a live talking car...

I highly doubt Michael Bay was able to provide ILM and Digital Domain animators reference of huge talking and fighting transforming robots. Who knows maybe the government are hiding them at area 51

I can go on and on but I wont as I'm hoping you get the picture by now. You obviously must be a beginner so as time progress and IF you practice, you should become better over time. In the meantime, if you want to pursue animation for a living, you should try to listen to others advice that may help you down the line. If you don't wanna, then hey best of luck to ya

hey rob, just checking, was that done with lattice deformers?? If not, what did you do.

I'm blocking out a pantomime piece where a man is coming out of a box, like a bunny out of a hat. This actually provides excellent reference for what I'm about to do. I did wish this thread to close as the negativity is just not good, but now its swinging back around. Thank you. If not lattices, what did you use??

p.s. I'm hoping to show my blocking on monday

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thelittlepenguin84 wrote:

hey rob, just checking, was that done with lattice deformers?? If not, what did you do.

I could have, but didn't in this case.  (you'll probably need to download this and watch it full size)

Note:  "CP" = "control point"  similar to a "vertice"

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@thelittlepenguin84 in Maya there's also a squash and stretch deformer you can use to get a similar effect. Easiest approach if you ask me, or you can still use the lattice.

Hey Rico Boy, try not to get so hit up. Maybe thats a tad too far, however much I share your annoyance. Think he has hit a nerve of many people, but focus on getting yourself a darn good job bro, you've done an amazing job so far

Hey Rob, yours looks cool but you also rendered it much nicer than I did... and you forgot the roof.

@ Dgrasshopper: Thanks! It's always nice to call people names you don't know. But actually I'm a Cavetroll. They're much cooler anyway. (and especially very much cooler than you are)

Last edited by Lex FundaMentals (05-27-2011 9:27 pm)

thelittlepenguin84 wrote:

hey ajfrank, I asked sudipto who I met through the mini-challenges. He first talked me through the squash and stretch over skype. It looks easier, but it allows me less volume control over the middle section of the box. I want my guy to travel up and be spat out through the top of the box. The lattices could be a pain to move, but if i thumbnail and plan well, it could be pretty cool.
Thank you for your help

Hey Steve, reading your post, I just remembered a better way of doing so, you create a lattice like you said, but instead of moving the points, you move your box through the deformed lattice. In order to make this work properly, you just need to set it to "transform only if inside lattice" on creation.
Then you group the whole schibong (including the ffd(whatever)lattice and ffd(whatever)base, and put the exact same animation on that group you just had on your box, of course only opposite. You can of course also use some kind of expression if the animation needs to be changed later on, something like
group1.translateX=pCube2.translateX*(-1)
group1.translateY=pCube2.translateY*(-1)
group1.translateZ=pCube2.translateZ*(-1)
Given that the group you were using is called Group1 and the cube is called pCube2.

You just need to group this Group1 again if you still want to be able to move the Box around (using the second group, of course)

Sorry if this the wrong thread, I just thought to give this tip where this question has been asked...

Cheers!

Wolfi

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Thank you wolfi, I've give it a try. That group stuff looks complex, its my first time of using lattices, but if I can get my head around it, should be cool.
It is indeed the right thread as well. Wanna get the story told well, before I post it. For me its pretty complicated, so if I can make it work by monday, I'll be dancing away. That is until you guys rip it apart in the personal works section

p.s. massive thank you. just about to watch your video
first thoughts is it wouldnt start so low, but thats some gorgeous curves on the edges. The opening at the top also gives me a few ideas, even if I resort to the lattice. The shapes on frame 13 love too. going to make me box pop up though. possibly flip then as he lands the box is flattened into its net shape. Loving the video tho so thank you.

p.p.s its tips like those that would be awesome on blog. Take a looney Looney tune action, and open up people's minds to the possibilities in 3d

Last edited by thelittlepenguin84 (05-27-2011 10:33 pm)

its beautiful mate. Even if doesn't work, its inspiring. And making me believe my shot can happen

Wow, I didn't know that this thread was still going, ha ha ha.

The more I think of it, the more I think the original guy is trolling, so the joke may be on all of us....

Like Rico, I kind of told this guy that his attitude sucks. I didn't do this because he annoyed me, I did this because this is a lesson he needs to learn way before he even wastes his time with bouncing balls or the principles... and I say "wastes his time", because no matter how good you are, you hire a person, not just their skills.

Like I mentioned earlier, I've been part of interviews where we've rejected people solely on their personality. Their quality of work became irrelevant.

So I don't think it's been harsh by telling this guy that he needs to change his attitude, if anything, it's THE advice he needs more than any other.

Oh, and I'd even say that trolling isn't a good idea on a professional forum (or any other site really). This thread got read by 3 animators at my work (to my knowledge). You have a username and a profile and we can see your previous entries. Even when you are online, you are still representing yourself, thats why its VERY important that any online account you have should represent in a good light. Trolling, swearing or anything like that should be kept away from anything that will connect to your work.

I don't like sounding like an jerk teacher, but this stuff is all useful info dude. Take it, please.

I don't know... it seems that way. I may be wrong. I thought someone else suggested that may be the case further back.

My advice was mainly for the first guy (User).

Dan.